Thursday, October 7, 2010

Identity/Knowing

Just watched "Doubt" and "Boys don't cry". Both good films, and both ask questions about how we know someone else - are those mirror neurons of the funhouse variety, or do they really allow us to see something about the other person? How much do we ordinarily take someone at their own valuation? "Boys don't cry"*, in particular, is remarkable for dividing the supporting characters after the big revelation, two characters in particular feel that their knowing goes deeper than what seems to be a major falsehood by the main character, and they continue in their feelings of affection. Does the lie reveal a truth? It was interesting to watch the two films in succession.

Strange moth, former moth really, I found on the sidewalk.

* This film could also be seen as an extended gloss on the Tom Waits song "Whistle down the Wind" - let's put it this way, it didn't leave me with any great desire to visit Lincoln, Texas (or Falls City, either).

18 comments:

Lorenzo said...

Interesting pairing. I have seen Doubt and liked it very much, wishing I had seen the original play on which it was based. And 'Boys Don't Cry' has been on that 'To see' list for a long time. Your micro-review and pairing with Doubt will push it up higher on the list.

ArtSparker said...

Lorenzo- Good film. there is some violence in it, I'm not sure how old your daughters are....

Charles Gramlich said...

Lovely moth. I fear I've not seen either of those movies, though

notmassproduced said...

thought provoking as usual - i haven't seen either of these

ger said...

A few weeks ago I stumbled upon the question of how we know someone else by looking at photos of + poems by a late friend on occasion of the 10th anniversary of his death, getting all of a sudden new + irritating insights which seemed more clear than close personal contact had ever provided them...

Celeste Bergin said...

what a beautiful moth--and I enjoyed your film reviews. I haven't seen Boys Don't Cry...but I expect I will. (I see good movies about 3 years after they are popular!) I enjoyed Doubt...having been raised in a Catholic environment (our church and church's office/school all looked familiar). The story was super interesting too. Better than I had expected.

Totalfeckineejit said...

I've been to paradise, but I've never been to Stoke-on-Trent.

annamaria said...

You got me there! I haven't seen either, but I will put them on the 'to see' list. I do love your 'coffee' t-shirt though!XX

Rick said...

I've seen both movies. "Boys Don't Cry" was very good, I thought, but probably too intense for younger viewers, as you suggest. "Doubt" had everything necessary, but I thought it could have been *more* intense. I confess, however, to a certain intolerance regarding understated attitudes to child molesters. If the people of the parish had stormed the church at night with torches and pitchforks and burned it with the priest inside, I might have felt more satisfied with the movie. (I'm only half-serious, of course!) It probably deserves a second viewing...

ArtSparker said...

Rick- "Doubt" is very typical of films made from plays I think, it has a formal, elliptical quality that underutilizes the media. I prefer the messiness of fims (when they are not Hollywood films). That said, I think the film was not about pederasty, so that's why it was downplayed. It very much resembled "The Crucible" for me, although I suppose it could also be related to a pared down "Little Foxes".

Jasmine said...

Amazing photo. You have me intrigued about about the films. The questions are ones that I often think about. I guess that not much is static, and the understanding we have/had are of a moment in time. Sometimes we are not aware of the change in others, or us in them. Maybe in the lie, there is some twisted truth? I will have to check out these films. Have a wicked week end xxJ

tony said...

I Havn't Seen Either.I Will Investigate.Thanks For The Tip .I Shall Investigate! Have A Fine Weekend Susan.

yvette said...

haven't seen them but all the thoughts are interesting.

who finds a death moth..Susan!

Tomás Serrano said...

I liked both films. And your pictures with insects...

Titus said...

Is that really a Death's Head?

I am a getting a little concerned about the moth incidence in blogs lately....

And look after yourself!

ArtSparker said...

Titus-

I don't think this is an actual death's head moth, it resembles it in having different sorts of markings on both wings, but doesn't have a skull that I can discern.

grrl + dog said...

I'd be interested to hear how you linked the two.
i had to see Doubt twice to really appreciate the subtleties in the stories..

Laura said...

an interesting and profound comparison-one i had not thought of-you have flipped the switch on in my brain. i have new terrain to discover...thank you:)