Monday, February 22, 2010

Alice incarnation


Here's the doll, I'm planning to put her in Mina's window in a couple of weeks. Mina is also going to show the book there when it is done...I am coming to the conclusion that I may need to ask for my readers' help with this. I'm wondering whether to do this sequentially with the the two books, or whether to group the images around ideas? Also wondering whether to just use bits of Carroll's text, or whether to get a a little ruminative in the manner of my blog? Or minimal text? Any thoughts you have would be gratefully received.

26 comments:

The Scrybe said...

I like this doll. She looks like she's waiting for someone to breath life into her. The Brothers Quay come to mind. Wouldn't it be fun to see her animated...

Jasmine said...

The doll is wonderful. I am leaning towards the idea of you grouping images around ideas. Some text with a little of your own added would be good but all in all maybe keep the book light in words and heavy in pictures? Pictures can be interpreted in so many ways, it leaves more for the imagination.

ArtSparker said...

Thanks Jasmine- insight from a trusted reader is very helpful.

Charles Gramlich said...

That's very cool. I really like the clothing. It makes me think of a Corn husk doll I used once in a story.

Fresca said...

I don't quite understand the question...
"whether to do this sequentially with the the two books...."

Do what sequentially?
You mean, have a series of window displays over time?

How will the text be displayed, which will allow you to be ruminative, or not?

Do you want to explain a little more?
(Purely optional!)

ArtSparker said...

Fresca-The doll is unrelated, it's its own thing. I want to make a book of the Alice posts, most of the previous ones are in the May archive of last year and are scenes with paper figures based on the original illustrations in three-dimensional environments. I just shot a new series very quickly of various items from my collection sitting on the text of the book. I have quite a bit of material and am not sure how to organize it.

Shayna said...

I think a picture book, sans text, would be splendid because your images create such a rich visual world and take the viewer into her own sensations/thoughts/dreams (without having text to break this artful trance) - on the other hand, I think it would also be perfect to see Carroll's brilliant quotes from Alice in and around your art - definitely an homage to Carroll, though your art alone is surely such ... I don't think I helped much by standing on both sides, but I DO know that your Alice doll is a complete treasure!

Cláudia said...

I risk to tell you that I like sequential. I know I am in an artist environment and that post modernism is about fragmentation, blah, blah, blah..

Your work with Alice is already a revolution, so why not show it inside the narrative? The narrative is still important, I love the development of a narrative.

But I agree with Jasmine - more pictures, less words. Maybe a mixture of your text and Carrol's.

I believe sequence and rumination can work together very well! But then again I could be wrong or outdated in my ideas, who knows?

Steve said...

The portrait shot is very striking. Puts me in mind of a samurai warrior.

Fresca said...

Oh, I see: thanks for explaining, Susan!

I looked at posts labeled 'Alice in Wonderland' and my preference would be to see them presented in the sequence of the story,
since I could then follow along with the images and very little text would be needed to explain them--
just a light touch to remind us where Alice is.

I think people have some general idea of how the story goes... I do, anyway.
(Not that the order or events matters a whole lot!)

Your images are so cool,
you can't really go wrong, no matter how you order them.

Joei Rhode Island said...

Minimal Alice text with lots of pictures then one or two lines of your Diverging questions....to stimulate rumination about Alice and All Us.

aleph said...

I´m amazed with the "basic creature"´s transformation (I saw her by the end of October, but then it wasn´t she, it was a scary one!) Alice´s hair is fantastic. I would say: minimal text, yes but combinig bits of Carroll´s text and bits of your own ruminative mannerm, as you say. But very synthetic.I think it would be an interesting mix. And sequentially... Ah, I feel like an art director, haha...

ArtSparker said...

Thank you all - I am so grateful to have readers (can anyone tell me how to change "followers" to "readers" in the designated area?) who can give me feedback. Here's what I'm thinking now - built around ideas AND sequential. The stories are parallel and the ideas occur organically in the narrative. So, I'll be putting the two stories together in the arc I see happening in both stories. Since I want the book to give people a place to spin off from, I am going to reserve my own editorial comment for an afterword.

ArtSparker said...

aleph - Eva told me about paper clay, so she's had a makeover.

ger said...

I can see her walking around in that shop window with brisk, impatient steps when nobody´s watching - + I´m all for more pictures, less words, too - ruminative...!

Poet in Residence said...

Now she's a cool blonde & she don't look so dumb neither

Titus said...

I love the expression - quite how would one look on arriving in Wonderland. And the neck of the dress (well, all of the dress really).

I'm not so crazy on sequential, but maybe that's because I know the stories well, and definitely minimal text. I like the idea of images around ideas.

Interesting, though fairly short, article on Dodgson in the British Saturday Times (should be findable online, I presume).

Fresca said...

I love to see that we "followers" are helping you as Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum helped Alice--by expressing opposite points of view!

The Crow said...

Alice is beautiful, Susan. She looks astonished.

What about pictures with text/words floating like the cards thrown into the air at the end of the first story? Too scattered?

I like your Alice better than Tenneil's.

rosedale's 4head said...

digging the dress and the look on her face...i like Jasmine's suggestion, but Celeste's too...you are a pro at 'doing the Susan' -- i hope you post pics of it all...can't wait.

Bee said...

Well, although I would agree with Jasmine in theory, I think that Carroll's words and your ruminations still leave a LOT up to interpretation. I would like a mix.

Bee said...

BTW, I would love to have a book of your Alice drawings. I kept meaning to get the Alice calendar . . . but the Xmas season was not good for me.

Totalfeckineejit said...

Your words and your pics in any sequence.

Jenny Woolf said...

I think that using short pieces of Carroll's original text is a good idea - not necessarily using the most obvious quotes, though.

Sequential is usually better and I would have thought more likely to give the book a satisfying "shape".

But it is your book and your take on his words. It would be a pity not to use his words since he did consider these words very carefully and a paraphrase may lose some of the meaning.

Jenny Woolf said...

Titus mentioned an article on Dodgson in the London Times. If it was the Sunday Times one, then the link is too long to post here but just google "Lewis Carroll Ran Up Debts to Save Children".

Tomás Serrano said...

She is so strange and I like her.